mini-bosses are counted as bosses?
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Issue information
Issue ID
#5639
Status
Invalid
Severity
None
Started
Hercules Elf Bot
Apr 26, 2012 5:10
Last Post
Hercules Elf Bot
May 4, 2012 6:18
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Hercules Elf Bot - Apr 26, 2012 5:10
Originally posted by [b]sizenine[/b]
this used to not be the case, but now they have the same card drop rate when you set "i[color=#000000]tem_rate_card_boss". i'm fine with this change if it is meant to be, but the problem is that the drop penalty still applies to mini-bosses. therefore mini-bosses have an even lower drop rate than boss cards (note that this may apply to all boss items, not just cards).[/color]
this used to not be the case, but now they have the same card drop rate when you set "i[color=#000000]tem_rate_card_boss". i'm fine with this change if it is meant to be, but the problem is that the drop penalty still applies to mini-bosses. therefore mini-bosses have an even lower drop rate than boss cards (note that this may apply to all boss items, not just cards).[/color]
This post has been edited by sizenine on Apr 26, 2012 8:19
Hercules Elf Bot - Apr 26, 2012 6:23
Originally posted by [b]Snap[/b]
Yes
Yes
Hercules Elf Bot - Apr 26, 2012 7:07
Originally posted by [b]exneval[/b]
maybe Brian's [url="http://rathena.org/board/topic/61883-mini-mvp-and-mvp-card-drop-rate/page__view__findpost__p__93786"]diff[/url] can help your problem
maybe Brian's [url="http://rathena.org/board/topic/61883-mini-mvp-and-mvp-card-drop-rate/page__view__findpost__p__93786"]diff[/url] can help your problem
This post has been edited by exneval on Apr 26, 2012 7:08
Hercules Elf Bot - Apr 26, 2012 8:23
Originally posted by [b]sizenine[/b]
well then i guess my point now is that its irrational to group them together because since drop penalty still applies to mini-bosses. i understand that they were probably grouped together for efficiency reasons, but it doesn't make sense that mini-bosses will have lower drop rates than MvPs by default. so unless we apply brian's src mod, mini-boss cards are more rare than mvp cards by default.
or should we add an option to exclude mini-bosses from drop penalty too?
well then i guess my point now is that its irrational to group them together because since drop penalty still applies to mini-bosses. i understand that they were probably grouped together for efficiency reasons, but it doesn't make sense that mini-bosses will have lower drop rates than MvPs by default. so unless we apply brian's src mod, mini-boss cards are more rare than mvp cards by default.
or should we add an option to exclude mini-bosses from drop penalty too?
This post has been edited by sizenine on Apr 26, 2012 9:04
Hercules Elf Bot - Apr 26, 2012 10:05
Originally posted by [b]Brian[/b]
[quote name='sizenine' timestamp='1335428602' post='8628']
so unless we apply brian's src mod, mini-boss cards are more rare than mvp cards by default.[/quote]
The way it is now, rates should be the [b]same[/b].
All of the [font=courier new,courier,monospace]item_rate_*****_boss[/font] configs are for monsters with the MD_BOSS mode (this includes MVPs and mini-bosses).
[quote name='sizenine' timestamp='1335428602' post='8628']
so unless we apply brian's src mod, mini-boss cards are more rare than mvp cards by default.[/quote]
The way it is now, rates should be the [b]same[/b].
All of the [font=courier new,courier,monospace]item_rate_*****_boss[/font] configs are for monsters with the MD_BOSS mode (this includes MVPs and mini-bosses).
This post has been edited by Brian on Apr 26, 2012 10:15
Hercules Elf Bot - Apr 26, 2012 10:20
Originally posted by [b]Kenpachi[/b]
It's not a bug. It's a feature which is not working as you want it to work.
For suggestions please use the forum. Thanks.
It's not a bug. It's a feature which is not working as you want it to work.
For suggestions please use the forum. Thanks.
This post has been edited by Kenpachi on Apr 26, 2012 10:20
Hercules Elf Bot - Apr 26, 2012 11:47
Originally posted by [b]sizenine[/b]
[quote name='Brian' timestamp='1335434734' post='8633']
[quote name='sizenine' timestamp='1335428602' post='8628']so unless we apply brian's src mod, mini-boss cards are more rare than mvp cards by default.[/quote]The way it is now, rates should be the [b]same[/b].All of the [font=courier new,courier,monospace]item_rate_*****_boss[/font] configs are for monsters with the MD_BOSS mode (this includes MVPs and mini-bosses).
[/quote]
the rates are the same for both mvp and mini-boss, but like i have been emphasizing the whole time. [b]mvp's are excluded from renewal's drop rate penalty, but mini-boss is NOT[/b]. therefore, if you set boss card drop rates to 5x, MvP card drop will always be 0.05% but mini-boss will vary depending on the drop rate penalty (it can go as low as .01%).
my drop rate for boss cards is set to 3x. one player found tao gunka card at 0.03%, but another player found ghostring card at 0.01% (it got lowered to 0.01 because of the renewal drop rate penalty). tao gunka was unaffected because it is a MVP. it just doesn't make sense to set up the system to have mini-bosses drop their cards at a lower chance than MvP.
[quote name='Brian' timestamp='1335434734' post='8633']
[quote name='sizenine' timestamp='1335428602' post='8628']so unless we apply brian's src mod, mini-boss cards are more rare than mvp cards by default.[/quote]The way it is now, rates should be the [b]same[/b].All of the [font=courier new,courier,monospace]item_rate_*****_boss[/font] configs are for monsters with the MD_BOSS mode (this includes MVPs and mini-bosses).
[/quote]
the rates are the same for both mvp and mini-boss, but like i have been emphasizing the whole time. [b]mvp's are excluded from renewal's drop rate penalty, but mini-boss is NOT[/b]. therefore, if you set boss card drop rates to 5x, MvP card drop will always be 0.05% but mini-boss will vary depending on the drop rate penalty (it can go as low as .01%).
my drop rate for boss cards is set to 3x. one player found tao gunka card at 0.03%, but another player found ghostring card at 0.01% (it got lowered to 0.01 because of the renewal drop rate penalty). tao gunka was unaffected because it is a MVP. it just doesn't make sense to set up the system to have mini-bosses drop their cards at a lower chance than MvP.
This post has been edited by sizenine on Apr 26, 2012 11:53
Hercules Elf Bot - Apr 26, 2012 12:44
Originally posted by [b]Kenpachi[/b]
As mentined above... use the forum please, this is a bug tracker.
As mentined above... use the forum please, this is a bug tracker.
This post has been edited by Kenpachi on Apr 26, 2012 12:44