Issue information

Issue ID
#6585
Status
Fixed
Severity
None
Started
Hercules Elf Bot
Aug 29, 2012 16:57
Last Post
Hercules Elf Bot
Oct 30, 2012 7:32
Confirmation
Yes (2)
No (0)

Hercules Elf Bot - Aug 29, 2012 16:57

Originally posted by [b]garet999[/b]
Hello,

A played reported a bug to us today claiming that the EXP tables were wrong. We tried it out and indeed it doesn't appear to be correct... atleast compared to the i[url="http://irowiki.org/wiki/Experience#Mechanics"]RO wiki table[/url]. The issue lies with the EXP received from mobs that are 11+ levels higher than you are, it appears to be less than what was promised, again this is compared to the iRowiki tables. All the exp received from mobs 11 levels higher than you are goes down to about 35~40%, whilst the tables said that should only happen when the enemies is 15 levels higher than you are.

Cheers!

-Jeroen Kooiman

Hercules Elf Bot - Aug 29, 2012 21:21

Originally posted by [b]Vali[/b]
iRO doesn't has the same penalty than kRO:

http://rode-r.doddlercon.com/viewpage/d/3

Hercules Elf Bot - Aug 29, 2012 21:42

Originally posted by [b]garet999[/b]
Look at the experience table on that link as well, if the mob is 11 levels higher on athena it only gives 40%, on that chart it says it should give 135% :P
Using latest revision.


Example: Ghoul is level 61, and gives 29,150 EXP on my server (50x) My character is level 50, 11 levels below the ghoul. According to that chart I should get 135% exp, which is about 39,353 EXP. However, instead I'm getting 11660 (0.4x == 40% of total exp).

Screenshot:
[img]http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h433/garet999/Untitled-3.png[/img]

chatbox:
[IMG]http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h433/garet999/Untitled-4.png[/IMG]


Vali, I'm sorry but would you please read the topic, and compare both EXP tables?

This post has been edited by garet999 on Aug 30, 2012 20:07

Hercules Elf Bot - Sep 2, 2012 23:45

Originally posted by [b]garet999[/b]
~Bump

Any updates regarding this issue?

Hercules Elf Bot - Sep 7, 2012 8:51

Originally posted by [b]garet999[/b]
I'm sorry to triple post, but was there really no issue spotted here? The level difference is one of the most serious changes within Renewal. Basically this bug made the leveling gab shorter which makes it harder for players to level up, especially on low rate servers.

PS: I'm sorry if I sound like a Jerk, I don't mean to :P.

This post has been edited by garet999 on Sep 7, 2012 9:16

Hercules Elf Bot - Sep 7, 2012 14:35

Originally posted by [b]malufett[/b]
it seems rA follow this..
[img]http://ro.doddlercon.com/images/lvdiff.png[/img]
[s]anyway which is more updated??[/s]

ok I'll check kRO then,,,...

:meow:

This post has been edited by malufett on Sep 7, 2012 14:51

Hercules Elf Bot - Sep 7, 2012 20:05

Originally posted by [b]garet999[/b]
Sorry for the late reply, I wasn't around. I think the table you showed was older though. Also, the EXP given on a +10 monster seems to be 140% and not 95%, where the +11 > only gives 40%. I saw the source and it indeed looks like the table you mentioned, but I have no idea why it doens't follow that or follow the other one correctly.

Hercules Elf Bot - Sep 13, 2012 21:25

Originally posted by [b]garet999[/b]
*Sorry for the double post*

Malufett, the screenshot you posted was uploaded as early as March 2009:
" [url="http://ro.doddlercon.com/images/lvdiff.png"]lvdiff.png[/url] 27-Mar-2009 18:01 20K " (http://ro.doddlercon.com/images/)

Honestly my suggestion goes that the EXP tables on rAthena are highly outdated. If I recall correctly, the renewal system was just released around that time.

Hercules Elf Bot - Sep 16, 2012 17:57

Originally posted by [b]Golem1988[/b]
[quote name='garet999' timestamp='1347571554' post='14417']
*Sorry for the double post*Malufett, the screenshot you posted was uploaded as early as March 2009:" [url="http://ro.doddlercon.com/images/lvdiff.png"]lvdiff.png[/url] 27-Mar-2009 18:01 20K " ([url="http://ro.doddlercon.com/images/"]http://ro.doddlercon.com/images/[/url])Honestly my suggestion goes that the EXP tables on rAthena are highly outdated. If I recall correctly, the renewal system was just released around that time.
[/quote]

have postet this question before, with the 15 level formula you say. If you want, I have the correct formula from iRO wiki, just go and take it... :) You can find it somewhere in modification discussions about renewal... :) If you take my formula, be kind and place some <c> in there. link [url="http://rathena.org/board/topic/70762-suggestion-official-renewal-exp-gane-formulas/"]http://rathena.org/board/topic/70762-suggestion-official-renewal-exp-gane-formulas/[/url]

This post has been edited by Golem1988 on Sep 16, 2012 18:02

Hercules Elf Bot - Sep 18, 2012 16:12

Originally posted by [b]garet999[/b]
*bump*

Is this still alive? Any updates on this?

Hercules Elf Bot - Sep 18, 2012 16:32

Originally posted by [b]Golem1988[/b]
I gave you a link how to solve that problem. Go and take it.

Hercules Elf Bot - Sep 18, 2012 19:38

Originally posted by [b]garet999[/b]
That's not the point, i know how to fix it myself.

Hercules Elf Bot - Sep 20, 2012 7:13

Originally posted by [b]Golem1988[/b]
[quote name='garet999' timestamp='1347997117' post='14545']
That's not the point, i know how to fix it myself.
[/quote]

yOu want that table would be implement into SVN? I tryed to make an issue, but people just ignored it, saying the same as said to you. bla bla bla, not the kRO table.. bla bla bla, check doddler... Yes, sure, doddler has 2-3 years outdated table, but noone cares about it :D Aegis has the same table I've posted, but noone cares again :) So, if you wana make something good, make it yourself I think so :D

Hercules Elf Bot - Sep 25, 2012 14:06

Originally posted by [b]solvent[/b]
[url="http://ro.doddlercon.com/wiki/index.php?title=Renewal_Changes#Experience_Points"]http://ro.doddlercon.com/wiki/index.php?title=Renewal_Changes#Experience_Points[/url]

Even using this table, rAthena is off,
boost = 100 + (( -diff * 5) - 15);
This should be
boost = 100 + (( -diff * 5) - 10);
in order to reach 140% exp at 10 level difference. The conditional statements used suggest a 3 level difference would grant something other than 100% exp, but that's not the case, so even if the algorithm was correct, the if statements should be changed for clarity

Hercules Elf Bot - Sep 25, 2012 14:57

Originally posted by [b]Spre[/b]
It will be taken care of once all the ducks are lined up.

This means once the true values are determined and what not, No one ignores anything, there is alot of work going on.

Hercules Elf Bot - Sep 25, 2012 15:14

Originally posted by [b]malufett[/b]
once I'm free I'll commit the fixes... ;)

:meow:

Hercules Elf Bot - Oct 30, 2012 7:32

Originally posted by [b]malufett[/b]
Fixed @ [rev='16842']
:meow: