Issue information

Issue ID
#7569
Status
New
Severity
None
Started
jTynne
Jul 22, 2013 19:24
Last Post
malufett
Jul 23, 2013 5:54
Confirmation
N/A

jTynne - Jul 22, 2013 19:24

Copy/pasting player's ticket here; tested and confirmed.

Regarding the point 4 i actually have done the test by sacrificing some faith point, the details is as follows :
First experiment is on the normal mobs, on the same mob type.
Hunting Spear [1]+6 no card
Cardo [1] +7 AK card
Skill use Spiral Spear lets say Mob A, indicate damage is same, it is around 10,000-13,000 without element buff. Before Cardo did around 20,000-45,000 max despite of the weapon weight and pierce any defense.

Second Experiment is compare it with Thousands spear skill on Atroce.
what surprise me that when I try javelin [4] with weight 70 , the damage much better is around 20,000-25,000 max on the normal mob. then I try pole axe [1]+7 the damage fewer due to the weight. this conclude that more light the spear, and more atk power it has and bonus from cards the more damage. All seems normal until i try on Atroce. When the MVP using Shield ability, Cardo & Hunting spear do only 1,800-2500max, with aspersio, buff and using Alhspiles(can pierce enemy defense) i can do normal damage as Cardo did when Atroce is not using shield ability. Thus the damage indicate 40,000-45,000 max.

Third Experiment is Dragon Breath fewer damage, which is before actually quite imba. and ignition do more damage.

Back to the Spear case, yes it is Javelin [4] without refine without cards, and no item. it is good to know that this renewal skill works well in this server, it go to the right calculation with the Weight of the spear as said it is normal no bug. However what is actually i\'m trying to explain is this skill compare to Spiral Skill which I tried to convince you about the bug at Spiral Damage by compare it using Ahlspiess+hundred spear skill which is note that Ahlspiess is pierce defense also to Atroce MVP. So when it using Shield skill the damage Cardo [1]+7+AK card+Aspersio+Bless+Agi < Ahlspiess+7+Hundred Spears +Aspersio+Bless+Agi. The gap is actually Far. The damage done by Ahlspiess is normal Damage the Cardo does usually with buff +AK without Aspersio. If the Cardo [1]+AK+Aspersio, the damage in my experienced should go much better than Ahlspiess.


Yesterday I just make another experiment with the result that maybe can convince you this time.

I hunt mistress which tele2 in very short time, i got gungnir. and I test with this skills againts Mole/Holden:
(the spear plain,unslot, unrefine,jut got)
Ignition --> 15,000 damage approximately
Spiral Spear --> 8,000-9,000 damage
Hundred Spears --> 28,000-30,000 damage unpierce def.

The fact is :
Gungnir only 120 atk, while Cardo far above
Gungnir only have 50 Weight
Hunting Spear Weight 420
Cardo Weight 560

Somethings went wrong about the Spiral damage since (!!!the weight is only 50!!!), I tried Gungnir in many Ragnarok servers and the damage should not go more than 3,000 or 4,000.

malufett - Jul 23, 2013 5:54

hmm..sorry but I can't get it ..but here I show you some official result..

From official base atk of 163
using Gungnir
Spiral Pierce - 6333
Ignition Break(center) - 9393
Hundred Spear - 13325

using Cardo
Spiral Pierce - 13295
Ignition Break(center) - 10803
Hundred Spear - 12250

but when I try this in Hercules using Gungnir I have different result in Herc the damage is low about 1~3% while using Cardo its exactly the same..maybe ele related?(but using elemental sword its working fine)hmm..let me check that..


:meow:

This post has been edited by malufett on Jul 23, 2013 5:58